Pluto, Uranus, Prometheus, & Herschel

A few years ago, I wrote a piece about Uranus and Prometheus….

…and I had not heard of the work of Richard Tarnas.  I believed that I was basing my ideas, loosely, on the work of Dane Rudhyar and C. G. Jung.  I suspect that Tarnas had influenced the work of astrologers that I HAD heard of, and, when I synthesized some of their ideas I inadvertently re-invented his most eloquent wheel.
For that reason, and because I thought some might accuse me of plagiarism, I deleted my essay in its entirety upon discovering his work.
I present, instead, a series of links that I hope are useful:

I have retained no copy of my original work, and the Wayback Machine did not either.  As far as I know, it is forever lost.

However, I will summarize my points, from memory, here:

  • Uranus, mythologically, was a castrated sky god (a source of disdain and not much inspiration)
  • The planet in question is symbolic of THE source of inspiration of all the planets routinely used in astrology (except by traditionalists who refuse to use any modern concepts starting with, roughly, the discovery of the planet in question)
  • Finally, based on these ideas, I argued planet that we typically call Uranus really should be called Prometheus.  I noted that I would continue to say “Uranus” for the sake of communicating with readers but then noting my real opinion on the idea to help elucidate (pun intended) my ideas to my readers.

I have written this short piece to fill in the gap left by the deletion of my previous piece.  Hopefully it will clarify this somewhat important point to my more regular readers (over 130 of them now, as of this writing).

One more point, in addition to the work of Tarnas, I still think that the works of Rudhyar and Jung are especially important to understanding what the “Light Bringer” is trying to tell us with his “tricks” and surprises that encourage us to raise our consciousness and develop some bit of forethought.  And, as we continue to progress in a Promethean world characterized by the Internet and “Smart Phones,” such understanding is nothing less than essential.

[Update 2015-08-08]  I have located a copy of the original text, and it follows next:

Pluto Still BeDevils the IAU

When Pluto was “officially” demoted from status as a planet a few years ago, I was unofficially upset.

Why would such a change be made? And, could the IAU really have that level of authority, given that the rest of us had accepted the Little Devil as a planet for so many generations?

Over the years, I have been a student of “authority.” Much of what we call “authority” is really voluntarily given, with a kick in the seat of the pants from what is essentially “peer pressure.” More than a few authorities are merely bullies that use their schoolyard gangs to force the rest of us to cry “Uncle.”

The consequence of the IAU’s assertion of their “authority” has been the inspiration of a rebellion.

(Does anyone recall their ongoing effort to get the rest of us to refer to the Sun as “Sol”? Sounds like they want to rename our home star after a Discount Men’s Clothing Salesman.)

That Planet Named Uranus

So, consider an article titled “Uranus, Prometheus or just plain Herschel?”

The obvious key question: Should Uranus actually be called “Uranus”?

The not-so-obvious key question is “why are we stuck using the Greek / Roman pantheons, anyway?”

First off, hats off to Gerry Goddard for his thoughts on this matter. I wish that he hadn’t passed through transition in 2007; I’d like to discuss this article with him.

The Traditional Name of the Tradition Breaker

Gerry throws his hat in the ring regarding the question of whether the planet we know as Uranus should be called Uranus or Prometheus. He points out that the notion that the name “Uranus” should continue to be used because of “tradition” or “authority” is really a ludicrous paradox. Tradition (or “we’ve always done it that way”) is precisely the ANTITHESIS of the energy of that planet. Certainly the IAU was quite willing to dispense with the idea of “we’ve always done it that way” when they demoted Pluto.

AND, dear reader, consider that the moniker of a castrated sky-god who was deposed by his peers isn’t the best name for that planet.

This planet is about rebellion: “authority” is its enemy. “Uranus” was a Fallen Authority rather than a Rebel.

The first Titan (remember the Titans?), he was castrated by his son, Kronos (Saturn). And, all of the Titans were later exiled by Zeus (Jupiter) in a rebellion. The supposed symbol of rebellion was an authority figure who was deposed and castrated by his own group, only to be exiled (along with his group) by a new set of rebels? Frankly, Uranus doesn’t sound very Uranian.

On the other hand, Prometheus was the Titan who defected from the established others to join a younger rebel group. Prometheus (aka “forethougth,” or seeing the future) also rebelled against the rebels (the Olympians) to side with an even newer and younger group (humans). Maybe Prometheus is more Uranian than Uranus?

Not So Traditional Names

Goddard points out that we could solve the debate about “Promethus v. Uranus” simply by calling the planet “Herschel” after the discoverer.

This is even more rebellious because it jumps out of the system of the Greek / Roman mythology altogether. That is what skeptical, but brilliant, Douglas Hofstadter calls JOOSTing. Since astrology doesn’t fit within the box, or system, of “skepticism,” a skeptic’s idea of “jumping out of the system” somehow seems particularly appropriate to this planet.

[I should stop with the “Astrology v. Skeptic” stuff, lest I become mired by that Titanic debate.]

How about this: maybe the notion of using the Greek or Roman pantheons is a box, or prison, that we should leave altogether? We could name the Sun “Bob” and the Moon “Vera.”

Pluto could be known as “The Little Devil.” We’d strip the IAU of any power or authority in our system by ignoring questions of Planethood altogether. And, Uranus wouldn’t be called Uranus or Prometheus, but would be known by another name. Maybe we could call it “JOOST.”

Or, maybe is wouldn’t be known by a name at all, but by a symbol, color, or a number (or all three together)? In honor of Robert Anton Wilson (author of “Prometheus Rising”), we could number it “twenty-three.” Or, maybe just “23.” Or, maybe “JOOST-23?”

The Prince of Rebellion

Maybe the planet called Uranus is a bit like the artist called ‘Prince” once known as the symbol formerly known as the artist called “Prince.” :-)

Note that I only half-jest. Maybe the reader should consider renaming and re-conceptualizing the planets and their symbols. JOOST think of the possibilities


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  1. Ha Grand, I love the satire in this piece.

    I find that I AM my only authority and it is what I say it is and it is PLUTO to me. End of story. OR is it?

    To rebel takes so much energy and effort that I could be spending on Zero Point Field thought or the Higgs (GOD PARTICLE) boson, and the like. Therein lies the Genesis of all POWER! I say go back to the beginning and investigate where we messed up in the first place and insert a correction there (retro-casualty). Who knows, maybe the Galactic Federation would accept us into a higher Universe then. After all we would thus be proving we are capable as a planet and a HU-MAN race to conduct ourselves in a manner deemed appropriate by the GODS who put PLUTO in its known position in the heavens in the first place.

    Ha ha. Good work Grand, I love this piece.


  2. Thanks! Everything is a matter of perspective, to be certain.


  3. I think the fact that Prometheus was inappropriately named is, in light of its archetypal character, largely appropriate. Is it not poetically synchronistic that the “cosmic trickster” would trick us in such a way? Also, regarding the tendency of Prometheus to represent an interest in astronomy as well as astrology itself, a push for the name change, with the obvious cause being astrological interpretation, would stir up a lot of noise concerning the validity of astrology. In short, I think Prometheus is clearly the appropriate name, and I think every effort should be made to have the name changed (not to mention it would end the juvenile butt jokes.)

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    • Well put. I particularly agree about the “juvenile butt jokes.” 🙂 Astronomers rejected astrology long ago. Why be concerned about stirring “up a lot of noise”? They kicked out Pluto, and, to be sure, most of us (Astrologer or not) do not accept that.

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  5. Enjoyed your article on Pluto, Uranus, Prometheus… and just quoted you here: This is the blog, and we’re doing a book study on Sasportas’ “Gods of Change.” Thought you might like to see the thread. Hope the graphic doesn’t offend… It does support the “Change the Name” contingent, complete with juvenile butt-joke graphic.

    Thanks again!

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    • Thank you for the commentary! And, I like the ElsaElsa blog. Look forward to hearing more of your ideas.

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  6. I think its appalling that you deleted your original piece
    I liked it
    I remember it being very good and thought provoking , and not at all plagiaristic :you are being neurotic.
    tarnas is greatly overrated
    yes – I have read him ……….boring

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    • I am quite flattered by most of your commentary. Maybe I am being neurotic, but I see it as being safe. I have no copy of the original, so apparently it is gone forever.

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      • that is dreadful you must never delete thoroughly again – take down or hide if you must but do not totally delete . I remember your piece it had a lot of sense in it and was well worth reading and I am not happy !
        you are a good astrologer
        tarnas reminds me of a youthful aldous huxley who quoted things in his book just to show off : look how clever I am ; look at all the things I’ve read ; see what long words I can spell……look I’m a member of the intelligentsia…..contrast brief candles with Island – he didn’t need to prove anything by then and also I wish tarnas wd remember – you do not get extra marks for extra length

        An intelligent person who knows their subject will describe a complex or difficult concept in a straightforward way with simplicity so that people can understand
        all the rest is EGO

        Do you know the original date you posted it ? perhaps if you did a search including that you might pull up an historical copy cached somewhere

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      • The blog goes back to 2008. My guess is that is was some time between 2009 and 2011, but I am not certain. If somehow you do find it, then let me know. I am flattered by your comments.

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  7. do not be flattered accept the truth xxx hugs

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  8. “Sounds like they want to rename our home star after a Discount Men’s Clothing Salesman” – VERY clever! I, too, would love to have read your original piece – so second the “do not ever delete” in the future.
    (Madelyn Griffith-Haynie – ADDandSoMuchMore dot com)
    – ADD Coach Training Field founder; ADD Coaching co-founder –
    “It takes a village to educate a world!”


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